[Alex nods. He gets this - not all of it, but enough of it, and probably too well. Maybe's good enough to start with, and hopefully enough to give Bruce a kick in the ass.]

I don't think he understands that it doesn't happen all at once, [he offers in the hopes that it makes a difference - it did to him - before moving on. His tone's neutral, but he's watching Dick carefully.]

He asked me to talk to Jason. I told him he had to first.